Graves vs Talon — Jungle Matchup Guide

How to win the jungle race as Graves against Talon · Matchup data reviewed on patch 26.15

Verdict: Graves's race plan controls 7 of the 7 windows — Graves holds the tempo advantage in this jungle matchup.

The jungle race — the windows in Graves's plan

Read from Graves's seat: the race windows this plan plays for against Talon.

StageReadWhy
Level 1 ClearGraves FavouredEnd of the Line plus knockback autos shred melees holding a buff pit. The Noxian Diplomacy bleed wins short trades at shared entrances, so this is an edge and not a blowout — take the level-1 crossing only with the HP and cooldown lead.
Level 2 SkirmishGraves FavouredQuickdraw (E) True Grit armor stacking lets you out-trade in tight jungle lanes, but Rake's return damage makes mid-range poke trades free for them. You still win the straight exchange on the second camp; keep it short, keep it decisive, and keep the scuttle line yours.
Level 3 RouteGraves FavouredSmoke Screen's blind caps a kit that wins almost every close-quarters exchange. Talon can make it awkward — the Q-W bleed burst plus wall-hop angles start fights you never saw coming — but not as the first scuttle timer lands. Trade, then walk away with the first scuttle and the gank window behind it.
Levels 4-5 MacroGraves Favoured — Take DuelsThrough levels 4-5 you remain the stronger duelist — keep taking short, decisive trades vs Talon, but only with the HP and cooldown lead.
Level 6 BreakpointCollateral Damage FavouredCollateral Damage adds a dash-reset execute to your close-range shred, while Shadow Assault stealth plus converging blades burst anyone they touch. You win the breakpoint against Talon, not the whole game — cash it on the first objective after both sides hit six.
First Item SpikeYoumuu's / Umbral Glaive SpikeCompleting your core lethality component grants a devastating physical damage and armor penetration spike that completely destabilizes their defensive stat builds. Your camp clearing mechanics become completely automated, letting you wipe whole sides in seconds before invading deep into their jungle tracks. Talon's first item is the point where the bleed rotation goes from a heavy chunk to a full kill on a squishy.
2+ Items ScalingGraves Favoured — Wins LateTalon falls off relative to you — from two items on you win the raw stat check, even though he removes an isolated carry and leaves over a wall before anyone reacts. Drag the game long and force the 1v1s.

Runes & build vs Talon

Start
Mosstomper Seedling + Health Potion
First back
Serrated Dirk / Cloak of Agility — keep full-clearing into invades
First item
Youmuu's / Umbral Glaive
Then
Infinity Edge
Boots
Plated Steelcaps / Berserker's Greaves
Runes
Fleet Footwork (Precision): Triumph, Legend: Alacrity, Coup de Grace · Domination: Sudden Impact, Treasure Hunter · Shards: Attack Speed, Adaptive Force, Health

How to beat Talon as Graves: the first clear and pathing

Start your clear at the Red Buff camp to maximize early health optimization via E shell resets, before executing a full 6-camp clear path straight down into the scuttle crab. Talon clears fast with Rake and Noxian Diplomacy bleeds, and the wall-hops mean his path is shorter than yours.

Hardest and easiest matchups for Graves in the jungle

Ranked by the race windows in Graves's plans — the jungle race carries no win-rate sample.

Hardest

Easiest

  • Graves vs Zyra — Graves's plan claims 7 of 7 windows
  • Graves vs Talon (this guide) — Graves's plan claims 7 of 7 windows
  • Graves vs Taliyah — Graves's plan claims 7 of 7 windows
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The full Graves vs Talon report continues with scuttle & dragon rules, invade windows and safety boundaries, the top-side objective fight, macro rotations and the win condition — plus the live enemy-jungle tracker that shows their start, clear and gank timers in game.

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Common questions

Who wins Graves vs Talon in the jungle?

Graves's race plan controls 7 of the 7 windows — Graves holds the tempo advantage in this jungle matchup.

Is Graves vs Talon a skill matchup?

Not exactly — Graves's race plan controls 7 of the 7 windows, so Talon is playing catch-up and has to lean on the map.

What runes does Graves take vs Talon?

Graves takes Fleet Footwork on the Precision tree with Triumph, Legend: Alacrity and Coup de Grace, and Domination secondary (Sudden Impact and Treasure Hunter) vs Talon.

What should Graves build vs Talon?

Start Mosstomper Seedling + Health Potion and back for Serrated Dirk / Cloak of Agility — keep full-clearing into invades. Build Youmuu's / Umbral Glaive first, then Infinity Edge, with Plated Steelcaps / Berserker's Greaves.

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